Dateline: Within the budding so-called “grapevine” social multiplex thingie…

First, allow me to posit a, well, let’s call it a hypothesis:

2 + 2 = 4

Momentarily forget that the above equation is beyond-easily provable mathematically. As whatever-is-thegrapeine community members, I have utmost confidence that every single one of you can provide the ironclad proof for the sum of two and two being four – it is worth noting that the majority of people would respond to this motd with:

  1. Complete lack of interest in the content
  2. Utter inability to find relevance in the proving of the proposed equation, e.g. “Huh? Of course two plus two IS four” etc..
  3. An urge to succumb to boredom – i.e. a lack of faith that this is going somewhere … and most notably:
  4.  Okay, they’re gone. Here’s what we’re doing:

Respond to this motd, via comment, with one or more ways to go about suggesting that the above equation – being 2 + 2 = 4 – is false. Obviously it would be impossible for you to be wrong for the same reason that it will be impossible for you to be right. But this is not about being right or wrong, good or evil, pious or damned.

No. Rather…

…this is about deciding your own level of involvement in.. in.. y’know.. in whatever-the-hell it is that we’re doing by building this community together.

Trust me: all the other community members want to read what you might have to write; we all want to get to know each other’s modalities of intellect, intuition, playful nonsense &or whatever else may arise from this. So drop all uncertainty, inhibitions etc, get creative, & just post whatever the hell you come up with!



By now it should be clear that perks including technological wonder, participation in something that by its own definition will either better the world or destroy itself for lack of being able, and much more, much much more – kind of ad nauseum really – but we need to pick up the pace and efficiency, which is why it’s time to step up and decide how involved you’d like to be (and are capable of being).. still, and understandably, sometimes it’s not only the unremarkable who require incentive to do remarkable things, so, on that note, whoever posts the most interesting reply – as to be determined by a democratic vote wherein no party may vote for oneself – will win 100,000 TNA Coins in our 7DTD Alpha 12 Grapevine Zombie Grindhouse PvE Sandbox … up to 3 runners-up will each win a random value between 15,000 & 35,000 TNAC … and finally – although i am not in the running to win the TNA Coins – if anyone comes up with an answer that i can’t (by unanimous agreement) top, that person will – in addition to the above-listed incentives – win one no-questions-asked favor from yours truly.


  1. 2+2 = potato…..reason being 2 + 2 is going full potato…..i needs more coffee for ze internets

  2. thomas

    lets break it down 2+2=4 there are 4 corners in this webpage this webpage is called grapevine, grapvine has the letter v in it, v is a triangle upside down with an open end the letter after v is i as i the illuminatis symbol is an eye in a triangle 2+2 is illuminati confirmed.

  3. we are told to believe that 2 + 2 equals 4. But did you know that 2 + 2 is not addable into 4? So now the inevitable question? If 2 + 2 does not equal 4 than what does it equal.
    2/2 is 1, 1 + 1 is 11, add the following numbers in that equation up? what do you get? 2+2+1+1+1+1+1 = 9. than 9 + 11 = 911 which leads us all to the mastermind of the 9 11 attacks. the evil number 4.

  4. Comorat

    Let us examine first the law of the jungle:

    “The law of the jungle” is an expression that means “every man for himself,” “anything goes,” “need of the sole outweights the need of the many”,”survival of the strongest,” “survival of the fittest,” “kill or be killed,” “dog eat dog” and “eat or be eaten,”. The Oxford English Dictionary,[1] defines the Law of the Jungle as “the code of survival in jungle life, now usually with reference to the superiority of brute force or self-interest in the struggle for survival.” It is also known as jungle law or frontier justice.

    Thank you wikipedia, and you know this is true because its on the internet.

    Now then, that established we can safely assume that because what is above is known to be true that, in no uncertain terms, might makes for right. In simpler terms, the largest animal makes the rules.

    THAT established, I am 6 foot 6, 375 pounds, a veteran of the Army and I drive a Dodge.

    Ergo, 2 + 2 = 75 because I said so! *flex* *puffs chest* You wanna make something of it?

    • Player01

      You’re 6 foot 6,375 pounds? You may make all the rules, ever. By the way, may I introduce you to Jenny Craig?

  5. RookieEyes

    Rookie has no idea of that with which you speak o.O
    Soooo…. “HAVE HUGS!!”
    *Throws flowers and teddies and runs away!*

  6. Nonya

    If Cookie Monster has 2 cookies in hand and adds 2 more he doesn’t have 4 cookies, by the time he’s done adding he has 0 cookies in hand because he omnom’d them. There are also not 4 cookies in his belly because if you ever watched Sesame Street half the cookie ends up flying around in his frantic cookie nomming.

    If you want to get fancy 2 minutes + 2 minutes as added by Frank traveling at or near relativistic speeds, (i.e. the speed of light) doesn’t equal 4 minutes for Bob who is standing still.
    Additionally depending on Frank’s rate of acceleration (or delta-v), 2 minutes @ 12:00 isn’t the same amount of time as 2 minutes at 12:02 (assuming he continues to apply acceleration) so if he added them technically it would not equal 4 minutes. (cause the faster he goes the more time slows down as compared to Bob, the poor schmuck who has to stand still and watch Frank have all the fun at light speed).

    Thank you and good night.

  7. Player01

    If Susie has 2 apples and Jill has 2 oranges, and they put them together, it does not equal 4 apples or oranges.

  8. i’d say “i didn’t expect every single post to be so priceless” but that’d be a lie. 12 hours remain until the cutoff, voting ends 36 hours after that, prizes are deposited 12 hours after that.

    oh and i lied about 2+2=4 being easily provable. believe it or not, it’s actually impossible to prove, as a proof is different from axiomatic faith. ha! i love this community.


    xx isis

    • well shoot Isis you took the words right out of my mouth.

  9. Vvgamepro

    I’d say 2+2=4. That’s what my math books and teachers taught me, that’s what I have come to believe. But, if you watch the movie Balls Out (Totally not worth watching by the way, I hated it, but it was one of those movies you just had to finish to know how it ended, but I digress,) then you would know that there is something between 3 and 4, and the answer is not 3.5 or pie. The answer is something entirely different. I’m not going to divulge the answer to what is between 3 and 4. But if there is something, then can there not be something between 2+2=4? 2 (-) + 2 = 4. 1+1+1+1 is what? Well we would call that 4. 1+1 would be called 2. We created 2 because there were multiple 1’s. We created 4, because there were multiple 2’s. Really 2+2 does equate to 4, but the answer here is 4 is 1+1+1+1.

  10. ( lol sorry mike your latest reply got caught in spam limbo, clearly not spam but you could see how my filter might have made that error. i fixed everyone’s permissions though. also everyone sorry about the delay in prizes & 7dtda12.2 / tna3. update, had a little pancreas snafu with boring details, all sorted now, everything up to date etc )

    • RookieEyes

      Don’t worry about the game Isis! Take care of your health first! =O
      I hope you’re all better *MORE HUGS!!*

    • No worries man. like rookie said take care of the game first! lol jk. Always in this order health, family, friends, acquantences, and than people you play video games with online, annnnnd than me 🙁

      but i enjoy being on the bottom of the totem pole because if i fall the whole dam thing comes tumbling down 🙂

  11. blades_x

    2+2=4 can’t be true because there is no account for entropy loss. Obviously the work it takes to add 2+2 would result in getting a number smaller than four. This is the inevitable problem with the air conditioner on the wall next to me and it has been driving me insane since I learned about a few years ago.

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